Showing posts with label Calvinism. Show all posts
Showing posts with label Calvinism. Show all posts

Friday, October 26, 2012

Lloyd-Jones on Lay Pastors

Martyn Lloyd-Jones addresses this much better than I could.  I've long disliked the idea of a "lay elder" or "lay preacher", or in other words, a guy who works with computers during the week and then somehow on Sunday is competent enough to lead a congregation in worship?  Give me a break. 
If I go to see a doctor, it's a doctor who is full-time in his practice, not a guy who practices medicine "only on Sunday".  From Chapter 6 of "Preaching and Preachers" (p. 100) (my highlights added)

The first principle I would lay down is that all Christians are clearly not meant to do this, and that not even all Christian men are meant to preach, still less the women! In other words we must consider what is called 'lay-preaching'. This has been practised very commonly for a hundred years and more. Prior to that it was comparatively rare, but it has become very common. It would be interesting to go into the history of that, but time prohibits our doing so. The interesting thing to notice is that this change once more, was primarily due to theological causes. It was the shift in theology last century from a Reformed Calvinistic attitude to an essentially Arminian one that gave rise to the increase in lay-preaching. The explanation of that cause and effect is that Arminianism, ultimately, is non-theological. That is why most denominations today are generally non-theological. That being the case it is not surprising that the view gained currency that preaching was open to almost any man who had become a Christian, and later, any woman also.

My assertion is that this is an unscriptural view of preaching. There are of course exceptional circumstances where this may be necessary; but I would then query as to whether it is actually 'laypreaching'. What I mean by exceptional circumstances is that it may well be the case, owing to the state and the condition of the Church lack of means and so on-that the Church may not be in a position to support a man full-time in the work of the ministry, and particularly preaching. Definitions are important at this point. The modem view of lay-preaching, largely derived from the teaching of Methodism and Brethrenism, is that this should be the normal practice and not the exception, and that a preacher is a man who earns his living in a profession or business, and preaches, as it were, in his spare time.

(Also helps reinforce the idea that Methodists often get things wrong, too)

Sunday, April 29, 2012

Antivasectometarianism.... or.... a new home

A new home, but the same erratic nonsense...

I'm grateful to Fishhawk over at The Trib-Times for humoring a lot of my diabolical and often nonsensical posts for so long, but I think I pushed the envelope just a few too many times with my comments about Calvinism, cosmetic surgery, perverted tanning salons, sterilizations, Big Pharma, The Duggars, and far too much chillwave music to do any good. So after repeated warnings to clean up my act and be more responsible, I thought it was the best to move on, and dedicate one site specifically to my nonsensical ruminations. For the record, Fish was a good sport, and he's a great guy, and his blogs are definitely worth checking out.

But as for my nonsense, it will start showing up here. Don't expect much to change - if anything, there is no longer the sane voice of Fish to hold me in restraint, so things might get odd...